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  1. Prediction
  2. Bet Builder
  3. Correct Score
  4. Odds
  5. Team Stats
  6. Player Stats
  7. Player Props
  8. Team News
  9. Lineups
  10. Injuries
  11. Roster
  12. Standings

Why We’re Expecting Senators to Win

There are lots of reasons to support the prediction that the Senators will get the better of the Red Wings in 60 minutes. Therefore, we’re heading to the 3-Way Moneyline where you can get 2.00.

7 Victories for Senators in Previous 10 H2H Games

Detroit Red Wings have suffered a defeat in their previous five games including a recent 5-2 loss. This occurred on the road at Capital One Arena against Washington Capitals. Moritz Seider and Dylan Larkin scored one goal each.

Ottawa Senators have enjoyed back-to-back wins, most recently beating New York Rangers 4-3 (OT). It was a home success at Canadian Tire Centre. Brady Tkachuk scored two goals, with Michael Amadio and Ridly Greig also scoring.

The Red Wings had the edge in the most recent encounter between these teams. At Little Caesars Arena, they recorded a 3-2 win over the Sens. The Sens have triumphed in seven of the previous 10 clashes between these teams.

Starting Goalies

Cam Talbot (Confirmed)
Season W-L-OTL: GAA: SV%: SO:
24/25 17-16-3 3.02 .898 2
23/24 27-20-4 2.5 .913 3
Linus Ullmark (Confirmed)
Season W-L-OTL: GAA: SV%: SO:
24/25 19-13-3 2.78 .908 3
23/24 22-10-5 2.57 .915 2
Detroit Red Wings – Last 10 Games

3 wins, 6 losses and 1 overtime loss, averaging 2.8 goals from 32.0 shots on goal, with a 30.6% powerplay efficiency. The Red Wings have been giving up 4.1 goals from 26.4 shots, averaging 2.3 penalties with a penalty-killing efficiency of 82.6%.

Alex DeBrincat is the top points scorer with 11 points, 6 goals and 5 assists, with Patrick Kane racking up 10 points, 4 goals and 6 assists, over the past 10 games. Goalie Cam Talbot have a 3.72 goal against average with a .856 save percentage.

Ottawa Senators – Last 10 Games

The Sens have 4 wins, 5 losses and 1 overtime loss, averaging 3.0 goals from 30.5 shots on goal, with a 16.7% powerplay efficiency. They have been conceding 3.8 goals from 32.9 shots, averaging 3.8 penalties per game with a penalty-killing efficiency of 73.7%.

The top points scorer is Tim Stutzle with 13 points, 3 goals and 10 assists, while Jake Sanderson is next best after registering 9 points, 2 goals and 7 assists. Goalie Linus Ullmark have a 3.59 GAA with a .895 SV%.

Expert NHL Analysis

The NHL handicappers at jeetwin88.com check injury updates regularly and combine this with the form guide. We’re also able to consult a database of team, player and goalie stats and present the key numbers to our readers.

Key Red Wings vs Senators stats:

  • Senators have won 7 of their last 10 games at home.
  • Senators have won 13 of their last 20 games at home.
  • Senators have won 2 consecutive games.
  • Red Wings have lost 5 of their last 5 games.
  • Red Wings have lost 7 of their last 10 games.
  • Red Wings have lost their last 5 games.
  • Senators have won 7 of their last 10 games against Red Wings.

Detroit Red Wings vs Ottawa Senators Prediction

There is 2.00 available when it comes to Ottawa Senators on the 60-minute line. We believe that our pick has a strong chance of winning this NHL clash and the odds makes lots of appeal.

Those looking for a bigger price about a win for Ottawa should head to the Match Winner & Total Goals lines. You can combine this pick with an Over / Under prediction for more juice.

Senators 3-Way Moneyline Probability

The sportsbooks make it a 50% chance that our pick is settled as a winner. After careful examination, our experts calculate this probability to be somewhere between 55-60%. It is therefore regarded as a value bet.

Our Pick

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Player Props

Top Pick: Vladimir Tarasenko Over 1.5 Shots 1.81 bet365 logo

Vladimir Tarasenko (Red Wings) has had Over 1.5 shots on goal in 7 straight games. He should be capable of covering the line when it comes to this player prop and odds of 1.81 are now available.

Latest Vladimir Tarasenko Player Prop Odds

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Detroit Red Wings vs Ottawa Senators Bet Builder Tips

3-Way Moneyline Senators
To Score Brady Tkachuk
Shots on Goal Vladimir Tarasenko Over 1.5

Our same game parlay pick is the Senators on the 60-minute line, Brady Tkachuk (Senators) to find the net and Vladimir Tarasenko (Red Wings) to have Over 1.5 shots.

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Detroit Red Wings vs Ottawa Senators Odds

The odds and lines are updated on a frequent basis. You might therefore find that they are different to the ones listed for the betting predictions and bet builder tips.

Books Make Senators Moneyline Favorites

Ottawa Senators have the shortest price to win this game, with the sportsbooks giving them a 63% probability due to their 1.59 Moneyline betting odds. If you’re looking for an alternative angle, Detroit Red Wings are trading at 2.40.

The puck line is 1.5, with the total goals line at 5.5. A Totals wager is always available and can often provide value selections. If you're keen on Over 5.5, this selection is available at 1.71.

The Sens are favorites to find the net first at odds of 1.71. Conversely, if you think the Red Wings will score the opener, they are 2.00 to do so.

Consider every angle when placing your National Hockey League bets. The betting sites offer a huge selection of game lines and team props and it’s all about finding a wager which matches your prediction of the game.

Brady Tkachuk Favorite to Find the Net First

The First Goalscorer favorite is Brady Tkachuk at 9.50. Similar odds can be found if you’re interested in this player to register the last goal.

Player Goals

Brady Tkachuk (Senators)
First
9.50
Anytime
2.45
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Dylan Larkin (Red Wings)
First
11.00
Anytime
2.70
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Tim Stützle (Senators)
First
11.00
Anytime
2.80
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Drake Batherson (Senators)
First
12.00
Anytime
3.00
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Player Shots

Brady Tkachuk (Senators)
Over 3.5
1.81
Under 3.5
1.95
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Dylan Larkin (Red Wings)
Over 2.5
1.67
Under 2.5
2.15
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Tim Stützle (Senators)
Over 2.5
2.45
Under 2.5
1.52
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Drake Batherson (Senators)
Over 2.5
2.50
Under 2.5
1.50
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Team Stats

Latest regular season and playoff games stats.

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings Stats

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Moneyline

  • 3 wins and 7 defeats in the last 10 games
  • 5 wins and 5 defeats in the last 10 games on the road

Moneyline

  • 4 wins and 6 defeats in the last 10 games
  • 7 wins and 3 defeats in the last 10 home games

Puck Line

Puck Line

Total Goals

Total Goals

Team Stats - Avg/Game

Team Stats - Avg/Game

Team News

Detroit Red Wings Player Stats & Roster

# Player GP MIN G A P +/-
23 Lucas Raymond 63 18.96 22 43 65 -9
71 Dylan Larkin 63 19.98 26 29 55 -6
93 Alex DeBrincat 63 17.75 29 24 53 -18

Ottawa Senators Player Stats & Roster

# Player GP MIN G A P +/-
18 Tim Stutzle 62 20.06 20 45 65 1
19 Drake Batherson 62 18.47 16 33 49 -11
7 Brady Tkachuk 60 18.7 26 23 49 0

Injuries & Suspensions

Detroit Red Wings Injury Table

Type
Name
Info
Andrew Copp
Injured
Jeff Petry
Injured
Carter Mazur
Injured

Ottawa Senators Injury Table

Type
Name
Info
Nick Cousins
Injured
Travis Hamonic
Injured

Starting Lineups

Ottawa Senators logo Ottawa Senators

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings

35
Linus Ullmark
85
Jake Sanderson
2
Artyom Zub
7
Brady Tkachuk
18
Tim Stutzle
28
Claude Giroux
23
Lucas Raymond
71
Dylan Larkin
85
Elmer Soederblom
53
Moritz Seider
8
Ben Chiarot
39
Cam Talbot

Ottawa Senators logo Ottawa Senators

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings

35
Linus Ullmark
72
Thomas Chabot
3
Nick Jensen
57
David Perron
24
Dylan Cozens
19
Drake Batherson
88
Patrick Kane
92
Marco Kasper
93
Alex DeBrincat
20
Albert Johansson
77
Simon Edvinsson
39
Cam Talbot

Ottawa Senators logo Ottawa Senators

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings

35
Linus Ullmark
43
Tyler Kleven
33
Nikolas Matinpalo
71
Ridly Greig
12
Shane Pinto
22
Michael Amadio
11
Vladimir Tarasenko
37
J.T. Compher
15
Craig Smith
3
Justin Holl
56
Erik Gustafsson
39
Cam Talbot

Ottawa Senators logo Ottawa Senators

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings

35
Linus Ullmark
20
Fabian Zetterlund
81
Adam Gaudette
15
Matthew Highmore
50
Dominik Shine
27
Michael Rasmussen
14
Tyler Motte
39
Cam Talbot

Previous Detroit Red Wings Lineups

08 Mar NHL
Red Wings 2-5 Capitals
07 Mar NHL
Utah HC 4-2 Red Wings
05 Mar NHL
Hurricanes 2-1 Red Wings
02 Mar NHL
Red Wings 3-5 Blue Jackets
28 Feb NHL
Blue Jackets 5-2 Red Wings
26 Feb NHL
Red Wings 3-2 Wild
24 Feb NHL
Ducks 4-5 Red Wings
23 Feb NHL
Wild 4-3 Red Wings
09 Feb NHL
Lightning 6-3 Red Wings
05 Feb NHL
Red Wings 5-4 Kraken

Previous Ottawa Senators Lineups

09 Mar NHL
Rangers 3-4 Senators
06 Mar NHL
Senators 4-3 Blackhawks
04 Mar NHL
Senators 4-5 Capitals
02 Mar NHL
Sharks 3-5 Senators
27 Feb NHL
Jets 4-1 Senators
23 Feb NHL
Canadiens 5-2 Senators
09 Feb NHL
Senators 1-5 Panthers
07 Feb NHL
Senators 1-5 Lightning
05 Feb NHL
Senators 3-4 Lightning
04 Feb NHL
Senators 5-2 Predators

NHL Standings

Metropolitan GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Washington 82 51 22 9 111 0.677 43 49 288 232 56 26-9-6 25-13-3 2-3 4-6 1L
2 Carolina 82 47 30 5 99 0.604 42 47 266 233 33 31-9-1 16-21-4 0-3 3-7 3L
3 New Jersey 82 42 33 7 91 0.555 36 40 242 222 20 19-17-5 23-16-2 2-2 5-5 1L
4 Columbus 82 40 33 9 89 0.543 30 34 273 268 5 26-10-5 14-23-4 6-1 7-3 6W
5 NY Rangers 82 39 36 7 85 0.518 35 38 256 255 1 19-19-3 20-17-4 1-0 5-5 2W
6 NY Islanders 82 35 35 12 82 0.5 28 33 224 260 -36 19-17-5 16-18-7 2-3 3-7 2L
7 Pittsburgh 82 34 36 12 80 0.488 24 33 243 293 -50 21-15-5 13-21-7 1-6 5-5 1W
8 Philadelphia 82 33 39 10 76 0.463 21 27 238 286 -48 20-20-1 13-19-9 6-3 5-5 3L
East Atlantic GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Toronto 82 52 26 4 108 0.659 41 51 268 231 37 27-13-1 25-13-3 1-2 9-1 5W
2 Tampa Bay 82 47 27 8 102 0.622 41 45 294 219 75 29-8-4 18-19-4 2-3 5-5 1L
3 Florida 82 47 31 4 98 0.598 37 41 252 223 29 27-12-2 20-19-2 6-0 3-7 2L
4 Ottawa 82 45 30 7 97 0.591 35 44 243 234 9 27-11-3 18-19-4 1-2 6-4 1W
5 Montreal 82 40 31 11 91 0.555 30 38 245 265 -20 23-12-6 17-19-5 2-4 7-3 1W
6 Detroit 82 39 35 8 86 0.524 30 36 238 259 -21 22-16-3 17-19-5 3-0 6-4 1L
7 Buffalo 82 36 39 7 79 0.482 29 32 269 289 -20 23-15-3 13-24-4 4-2 6-4 1W
8 Boston 82 33 39 10 76 0.463 26 33 222 272 -50 20-14-7 13-25-3 0-1 3-7 1L
East Central GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Winnipeg 82 56 22 4 116 0.707 43 54 277 191 86 30-7-4 26-15-0 2-1 7-3 1W
2 Dallas 82 50 26 6 106 0.646 41 48 277 224 53 28-10-3 22-16-3 2-2 3-7 7L
3 Colorado 82 49 29 4 102 0.622 40 45 277 234 43 26-12-3 23-17-1 4-3 5-5 1W
4 Minnesota 82 45 30 7 97 0.591 33 42 228 239 -11 22-17-2 23-13-5 3-3 5-5 2W
5 St Louis 82 44 30 8 96 0.585 32 40 254 233 21 24-14-3 20-16-5 4-2 7-3 1W
6 Utah 82 38 31 13 89 0.543 30 37 241 251 -10 18-15-8 20-16-5 1-4 6-4 1L
7 Nashville 82 30 44 8 68 0.415 24 28 214 274 -60 20-18-3 10-26-5 2-0 3-7 1W
8 Chicago 82 25 46 11 61 0.372 20 23 226 296 -70 15-20-6 10-26-5 2-4 4-6 2W
West Pacific GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Vegas 82 50 22 10 110 0.671 46 49 275 219 56 29-9-3 21-13-7 1-5 6-4 1W
2 LA Kings 81 48 24 9 105 0.648 43 47 249 201 48 31-5-4 17-19-5 1-3 8-2 4W
3 Edmonton 82 48 29 5 101 0.616 36 48 259 236 23 25-13-3 23-16-2 0-1 7-3 1W
4 Calgary 81 40 27 14 94 0.58 30 35 220 237 -17 23-12-6 17-15-8 5-2 6-4 3W
5 Vancouver 82 38 30 14 90 0.549 28 35 236 253 -17 17-16-8 21-14-6 3-2 4-6 1L
6 Anaheim 82 35 37 10 80 0.488 24 31 221 263 -42 21-18-2 14-19-8 4-2 3-7 4L
7 Seattle 82 35 41 6 76 0.463 28 33 247 265 -18 18-18-5 17-23-1 2-3 5-5 1L
8 San Jose 82 20 50 12 52 0.317 14 18 210 315 -105 12-27-2 8-23-10 2-5 0-10 11L
Eastern GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Washington 82 51 22 9 111 0.677 43 49 288 232 56 26-9-6 25-13-3 2-3 4-6 1L
2 Toronto 82 52 26 4 108 0.659 41 51 268 231 37 27-13-1 25-13-3 1-2 9-1 5W
3 Tampa Bay 82 47 27 8 102 0.622 41 45 294 219 75 29-8-4 18-19-4 2-3 5-5 1L
4 Carolina 82 47 30 5 99 0.604 42 47 266 233 33 31-9-1 16-21-4 0-3 3-7 3L
5 Florida 82 47 31 4 98 0.598 37 41 252 223 29 27-12-2 20-19-2 6-0 3-7 2L
6 Ottawa 82 45 30 7 97 0.591 35 44 243 234 9 27-11-3 18-19-4 1-2 6-4 1W
7 New Jersey 82 42 33 7 91 0.555 36 40 242 222 20 19-17-5 23-16-2 2-2 5-5 1L
8 Montreal 82 40 31 11 91 0.555 30 38 245 265 -20 23-12-6 17-19-5 2-4 7-3 1W
9 Columbus 82 40 33 9 89 0.543 30 34 273 268 5 26-10-5 14-23-4 6-1 7-3 6W
10 Detroit 82 39 35 8 86 0.524 30 36 238 259 -21 22-16-3 17-19-5 3-0 6-4 1L
11 NY Rangers 82 39 36 7 85 0.518 35 38 256 255 1 19-19-3 20-17-4 1-0 5-5 2W
12 NY Islanders 82 35 35 12 82 0.5 28 33 224 260 -36 19-17-5 16-18-7 2-3 3-7 2L
13 Pittsburgh 82 34 36 12 80 0.488 24 33 243 293 -50 21-15-5 13-21-7 1-6 5-5 1W
14 Buffalo 82 36 39 7 79 0.482 29 32 269 289 -20 23-15-3 13-24-4 4-2 6-4 1W
15 Boston 82 33 39 10 76 0.463 26 33 222 272 -50 20-14-7 13-25-3 0-1 3-7 1L
16 Philadelphia 82 33 39 10 76 0.463 21 27 238 286 -48 20-20-1 13-19-9 6-3 5-5 3L
Western GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Winnipeg 82 56 22 4 116 0.707 43 54 277 191 86 30-7-4 26-15-0 2-1 7-3 1W
2 Vegas 82 50 22 10 110 0.671 46 49 275 219 56 29-9-3 21-13-7 1-5 6-4 1W
3 Dallas 82 50 26 6 106 0.646 41 48 277 224 53 28-10-3 22-16-3 2-2 3-7 7L
4 LA Kings 81 48 24 9 105 0.648 43 47 249 201 48 31-5-4 17-19-5 1-3 8-2 4W
5 Colorado 82 49 29 4 102 0.622 40 45 277 234 43 26-12-3 23-17-1 4-3 5-5 1W
6 Edmonton 82 48 29 5 101 0.616 36 48 259 236 23 25-13-3 23-16-2 0-1 7-3 1W
7 Minnesota 82 45 30 7 97 0.591 33 42 228 239 -11 22-17-2 23-13-5 3-3 5-5 2W
8 St Louis 82 44 30 8 96 0.585 32 40 254 233 21 24-14-3 20-16-5 4-2 7-3 1W
9 Calgary 81 40 27 14 94 0.58 30 35 220 237 -17 23-12-6 17-15-8 5-2 6-4 3W
10 Vancouver 82 38 30 14 90 0.549 28 35 236 253 -17 17-16-8 21-14-6 3-2 4-6 1L
11 Utah 82 38 31 13 89 0.543 30 37 241 251 -10 18-15-8 20-16-5 1-4 6-4 1L
12 Anaheim 82 35 37 10 80 0.488 24 31 221 263 -42 21-18-2 14-19-8 4-2 3-7 4L
13 Seattle 82 35 41 6 76 0.463 28 33 247 265 -18 18-18-5 17-23-1 2-3 5-5 1L
14 Nashville 82 30 44 8 68 0.415 24 28 214 274 -60 20-18-3 10-26-5 2-0 3-7 1W
15 Chicago 82 25 46 11 61 0.372 20 23 226 296 -70 15-20-6 10-26-5 2-4 4-6 2W
16 San Jose 82 20 50 12 52 0.317 14 18 210 315 -105 12-27-2 8-23-10 2-5 0-10 11L
GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Winnipeg 82 56 22 4 116 0.707 43 54 277 191 86 30-7-4 26-15-0 2-1 7-3 1W
2 Washington 82 51 22 9 111 0.677 43 49 288 232 56 26-9-6 25-13-3 2-3 4-6 1L
3 Vegas 82 50 22 10 110 0.671 46 49 275 219 56 29-9-3 21-13-7 1-5 6-4 1W
4 Toronto 82 52 26 4 108 0.659 41 51 268 231 37 27-13-1 25-13-3 1-2 9-1 5W
5 Dallas 82 50 26 6 106 0.646 41 48 277 224 53 28-10-3 22-16-3 2-2 3-7 7L
6 LA Kings 81 48 24 9 105 0.648 43 47 249 201 48 31-5-4 17-19-5 1-3 8-2 4W
7 Tampa Bay 82 47 27 8 102 0.622 41 45 294 219 75 29-8-4 18-19-4 2-3 5-5 1L
8 Colorado 82 49 29 4 102 0.622 40 45 277 234 43 26-12-3 23-17-1 4-3 5-5 1W
9 Edmonton 82 48 29 5 101 0.616 36 48 259 236 23 25-13-3 23-16-2 0-1 7-3 1W
10 Carolina 82 47 30 5 99 0.604 42 47 266 233 33 31-9-1 16-21-4 0-3 3-7 3L
11 Florida 82 47 31 4 98 0.598 37 41 252 223 29 27-12-2 20-19-2 6-0 3-7 2L
12 Ottawa 82 45 30 7 97 0.591 35 44 243 234 9 27-11-3 18-19-4 1-2 6-4 1W
13 Minnesota 82 45 30 7 97 0.591 33 42 228 239 -11 22-17-2 23-13-5 3-3 5-5 2W
14 St Louis 82 44 30 8 96 0.585 32 40 254 233 21 24-14-3 20-16-5 4-2 7-3 1W
15 Calgary 81 40 27 14 94 0.58 30 35 220 237 -17 23-12-6 17-15-8 5-2 6-4 3W
16 New Jersey 82 42 33 7 91 0.555 36 40 242 222 20 19-17-5 23-16-2 2-2 5-5 1L
17 Montreal 82 40 31 11 91 0.555 30 38 245 265 -20 23-12-6 17-19-5 2-4 7-3 1W
18 Vancouver 82 38 30 14 90 0.549 28 35 236 253 -17 17-16-8 21-14-6 3-2 4-6 1L
19 Utah 82 38 31 13 89 0.543 30 37 241 251 -10 18-15-8 20-16-5 1-4 6-4 1L
20 Columbus 82 40 33 9 89 0.543 30 34 273 268 5 26-10-5 14-23-4 6-1 7-3 6W
21 Detroit 82 39 35 8 86 0.524 30 36 238 259 -21 22-16-3 17-19-5 3-0 6-4 1L
22 NY Rangers 82 39 36 7 85 0.518 35 38 256 255 1 19-19-3 20-17-4 1-0 5-5 2W
23 NY Islanders 82 35 35 12 82 0.5 28 33 224 260 -36 19-17-5 16-18-7 2-3 3-7 2L
24 Pittsburgh 82 34 36 12 80 0.488 24 33 243 293 -50 21-15-5 13-21-7 1-6 5-5 1W
25 Anaheim 82 35 37 10 80 0.488 24 31 221 263 -42 21-18-2 14-19-8 4-2 3-7 4L
26 Buffalo 82 36 39 7 79 0.482 29 32 269 289 -20 23-15-3 13-24-4 4-2 6-4 1W
27 Seattle 82 35 41 6 76 0.463 28 33 247 265 -18 18-18-5 17-23-1 2-3 5-5 1L
28 Boston 82 33 39 10 76 0.463 26 33 222 272 -50 20-14-7 13-25-3 0-1 3-7 1L
29 Philadelphia 82 33 39 10 76 0.463 21 27 238 286 -48 20-20-1 13-19-9 6-3 5-5 3L
30 Nashville 82 30 44 8 68 0.415 24 28 214 274 -60 20-18-3 10-26-5 2-0 3-7 1W
31 Chicago 82 25 46 11 61 0.372 20 23 226 296 -70 15-20-6 10-26-5 2-4 4-6 2W
32 San Jose 82 20 50 12 52 0.317 14 18 210 315 -105 12-27-2 8-23-10 2-5 0-10 11L