Vegas Golden Knights

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Edmonton Oilers

  1. Prediction
  2. Bet Builder
  3. Correct Score
  4. Odds
  5. Team Stats
  6. Player Stats
  7. Player Props
  8. Team News
  9. Lineups
  10. Injuries
  11. Roster
  12. Standings

Oilers Worth Backing

Vegas Golden Knights (50-22-10, 21-13-7 Away) face Edmonton Oilers (48-29-5, 25-13-3 at Home) in game 4 of this Stanley Cup Playoffs Western Conference second round matchup at Rogers Place. The Oilers lead the series 2-1.

Take the Oilers at 1.79 on the Moneyline to get the better of the Golden Knights. We believe that they have a strong chance of claiming an outright victory.

Teams’ Last Battle Saw 4-3 Knights Victory

Vegas Golden Knights and Edmonton Oilers met on Saturday night, with the Knights registering a 4-3 victory at Rogers Place.

The Knights had 24 shots on goal. Reilly Smith registered two goals, with William Karlsson and Nicolas Roy also finding the net. The Oilers recorded 25 shots on goal. Corey Perry registered two goals and Connor McDavid had the other.

The previous 10 H2H meetings have involved the Oilers winning six times.

Starting Goalies

Adin Hill (Confirmed)
Season W-L-OTL: GAA: SV%: SO:
24/25 27-11-5 2.48 .908 4
23/24 19-12-2 2.71 .909 2
Stuart Skinner (Confirmed)
Season W-L-OTL: GAA: SV%: SO:
24/25 24-18-4 2.91 .894 2
23/24 36-16-5 2.62 .905 2
Vegas Golden Knights – Last 10 Games

6 wins, 3 losses and 1 overtime loss, averaging 3.2 goals from 29.7 shots on goal, with a 26.7% powerplay efficiency. The Knights have been giving up 3.2 goals from 25.5 shots, averaging 2.4 penalties with a penalty-killing efficiency of 83.3%.

Jack Eichel is the top points scorer with 11 points, 2 goals and 9 assists, with Mark Stone racking up 8 points, 4 goals and 4 assists, in the past 10 games. Goalie Adin Hill have a 3.14 goal against average with a .872 save percentage.

Edmonton Oilers – Last 10 Games

The Oilers have 7 wins and 3 losses, averaging 4.2 goals from 32.4 shots on goal, with a 24.0% powerplay efficiency. They have conceded 3.4 goals from 27.0 shots, averaging 3.4 penalties per game with a penalty-killing efficiency of 67.7%.

The top points scorer is Connor McDavid with 17 points, 3 goals and 14 assists, while Leon Draisaitl is next best after having 15 points, 5 goals and 10 assists. Goalie Calvin Pickard have a 2.84 GAA with a .888 SV%.

Expert NHL Analysis

Getting the lowdown on injuries and studying the form guide are important duties ahead of making NHL picks. We also place great emphasis on the player and goalie stats and a data-led approach can be effective.

Key Golden Knights vs Oilers stats:

  • Oilers have won 4 of their last 5 games.
  • Oilers have won 7 of their last 10 games.
  • Oilers have won 6 of their last 10 games against Golden Knights.

Vegas Golden Knights vs Edmonton Oilers Prediction

There are attractive odds about Edmonton Oilers and our pick is for the home team to win this NHL clash. They can get the better of their opponents in various departments and you can get 1.79.

The Match Winner & Total Goals lines not only give you a chance to back Edmonton for the win but also combine this selection with a prediction for how many goals will be scored.

Oilers Moneyline Probability

The sportsbooks imply that our pick has a 55.9% prospect of winning. However, our cappers research has found that the actual probability is between 60-65%. This hockey bet can therefore be backed with confidence.

Our Pick

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Player Props

Top Pick: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins Over 1.5 Shots 1.60 bet365 logo

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (Oilers) has had Over 1.5 shots on goal in 5 straight games at home. We think it’s achievable that he will cover the Shots on Goal line and there are odds of 1.60 available.

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Vegas Golden Knights vs Edmonton Oilers Bet Builder Tips

Moneyline Oilers
To Score Leon Draisaitl
Shots on Goal Ryan Nugent-Hopkins Over 1.5

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Vegas Golden Knights vs Edmonton Oilers Odds

The odds and lines are updated on a frequent basis. You might therefore find that they are different to the ones listed for the above betting predictions.

Latest Moneyline Odds Suggest Oilers Victory

For this game, the sportsbooks’ Moneyline betting odds mean Edmonton Oilers are 1.82 favorites to win and that means a 55% chance of landing a victory. The market suggests that Vegas Golden Knights are least likely to win at 2.02.

The puck line is 1.5 and the total goals line is currently 6.5. NHL fans love the chance to get an alternative angle by going for a Totals wager. If you’re going for Over 6.5, then the odds are 1.69.

If you’re betting on the National Hockey League, we recommend heading to the betting sites and scanning through the many team props and game lines. There’s a chance to wager pre-game and in-game.

Leon Draisaitl Favorite to Light the Lamp First

Leon Draisaitl is priced at 8.50 when it comes to First Goalscorer. He’s the favorite and also available at odds of 2.07 to light the lamp at anytime.

Player Goals

Leon Draisaitl (Oilers)
First
8.50
Anytime
2.07
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Connor McDavid (Oilers)
First
10.00
Anytime
2.33
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Jack Eichel (Knights)
First
12.00
Anytime
2.65
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Mark Stone (Knights)
First
13.00
Anytime
2.95
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Player Shots

Leon Draisaitl (Oilers)
Over 2.5
1.57
Under 2.5
2.35
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Connor McDavid (Oilers)
Over 2.5
1.57
Under 2.5
2.35
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Jack Eichel (Knights)
Over 2.5
1.64
Under 2.5
2.20
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Zach Hyman (Oilers)
Over 2.5
2.20
Under 2.5
1.64
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Team Stats

Latest regular season and playoff games stats.

Vegas Golden Knights logo Vegas Golden Knights Stats

Edmonton Oilers logo Edmonton Oilers Stats

Moneyline

  • 6 wins and 4 defeats in the last 10 games
  • 7 wins and 3 defeats in the last 10 games on the road

Moneyline

  • 7 wins and 3 defeats in the last 10 games
  • 7 wins and 3 defeats in the last 10 home games

Puck Line

Puck Line

Total Goals

Total Goals

Team Stats - Avg/Game

Team Stats - Avg/Game

Team News

Vegas Golden Knights Player Stats & Roster

# Player GP MIN G A P +/-
9 Jack Eichel 9 23.21 1 9 10 -6
61 Mark Stone 9 20.27 4 4 8 -3
71 William Karlsson 9 18.17 3 3 6 5

Edmonton Oilers Player Stats & Roster

# Player GP MIN G A P +/-
97 Connor McDavid 9 24.04 3 13 16 6
29 Leon Draisaitl 9 23.17 5 10 15 7
2 Evan Bouchard 9 26.61 4 7 11 3

Injuries & Suspensions

Vegas Golden Knights Injury Table

Type
Name
Info
Robin Lehner
Injured
Brandon Saad
Injured

Edmonton Oilers Injury Table

Type
Name
Info
Mattias Ekholm
Injured
Calvin Pickard
Injured

Starting Lineups

Edmonton Oilers logo Edmonton Oilers

Vegas Golden Knights logo Vegas Golden Knights

74
Stuart Skinner
25
Darnell Nurse
2
Evan Bouchard
18
Zach Hyman
97
Connor McDavid
90
Corey Perry
61
Mark Stone
9
Jack Eichel
49
Ivan Barbashev
27
Shea Theodore
3
Brayden McNabb
33
Adin Hill

Edmonton Oilers logo Edmonton Oilers

Vegas Golden Knights logo Vegas Golden Knights

74
Stuart Skinner
96
Jake Walman
36
John Klingberg
93
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
29
Leon Draisaitl
13
Mattias Janmark-Nylen
16
Pavel Dorofeyev
48
Tomas Hertl
95
Victor Olofsson
7
Alex Pietrangelo
15
Noah Hanifin
33
Adin Hill

Edmonton Oilers logo Edmonton Oilers

Vegas Golden Knights logo Vegas Golden Knights

74
Stuart Skinner
27
Brett Kulak
51
Troy Stecher
91
Evander Kane
19
Adam Henrique
28
Connor Brown
19
Reilly Smith
71
William Karlsson
21
Brett Howden
2
Zach Whitecloud
14
Nicolas Hague
33
Adin Hill

Edmonton Oilers logo Edmonton Oilers

Vegas Golden Knights logo Vegas Golden Knights

74
Stuart Skinner
92
Vasili Podkolzin
21
Trent Frederic
42
Kasperi Kapanen
55
Keegan Kolesar
10
Nicolas Roy
70
Tanner Pearson
33
Adin Hill

Previous Vegas Golden Knights Lineups

11 May NHL Playoffs
Golden Knights 4-3 Oilers
09 May NHL Playoffs
Oilers 5-4 Golden Knights
07 May NHL Playoffs
Oilers 4-2 Golden Knights
02 May NHL Playoffs
Golden Knights 3-2 Wild
30 Apr NHL Playoffs
Wild 2-3 Golden Knights
27 Apr NHL Playoffs
Golden Knights 4-3 Wild
25 Apr NHL Playoffs
Golden Knights 2-5 Wild
23 Apr NHL Playoffs
Wild 5-2 Golden Knights
21 Apr NHL Playoffs
Wild 2-4 Golden Knights
17 Apr NHL
Golden Knights 4-1 Canucks

Previous Edmonton Oilers Lineups

11 May NHL Playoffs
Golden Knights 4-3 Oilers
09 May NHL Playoffs
Oilers 5-4 Golden Knights
07 May NHL Playoffs
Oilers 4-2 Golden Knights
02 May NHL Playoffs
Kings 4-6 Oilers
30 Apr NHL Playoffs
Oilers 3-1 Kings
28 Apr NHL Playoffs
Kings 3-4 Oilers
26 Apr NHL Playoffs
Kings 4-7 Oilers
24 Apr NHL Playoffs
Oilers 2-6 Kings
22 Apr NHL Playoffs
Oilers 5-6 Kings
17 Apr NHL
Oilers 3-0 Sharks

NHL Standings

Metropolitan GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Washington 82 51 22 9 111 0.677 43 49 288 232 56 26-9-6 25-13-3 2-3 4-6 1L
2 Carolina 82 47 30 5 99 0.604 42 47 266 233 33 31-9-1 16-21-4 0-3 3-7 3L
3 New Jersey 82 42 33 7 91 0.555 36 40 242 222 20 19-17-5 23-16-2 2-2 5-5 1L
4 Columbus 82 40 33 9 89 0.543 30 34 273 268 5 26-10-5 14-23-4 6-1 7-3 6W
5 NY Rangers 82 39 36 7 85 0.518 35 38 256 255 1 19-19-3 20-17-4 1-0 5-5 2W
6 NY Islanders 82 35 35 12 82 0.5 28 33 224 260 -36 19-17-5 16-18-7 2-3 3-7 2L
7 Pittsburgh 82 34 36 12 80 0.488 24 33 243 293 -50 21-15-5 13-21-7 1-6 5-5 1W
8 Philadelphia 82 33 39 10 76 0.463 21 27 238 286 -48 20-20-1 13-19-9 6-3 5-5 3L
East Atlantic GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Toronto 82 52 26 4 108 0.659 41 51 268 231 37 27-13-1 25-13-3 1-2 9-1 5W
2 Tampa Bay 82 47 27 8 102 0.622 41 45 294 219 75 29-8-4 18-19-4 2-3 5-5 1L
3 Florida 82 47 31 4 98 0.598 37 41 252 223 29 27-12-2 20-19-2 6-0 3-7 2L
4 Ottawa 82 45 30 7 97 0.591 35 44 243 234 9 27-11-3 18-19-4 1-2 6-4 1W
5 Montreal 82 40 31 11 91 0.555 30 38 245 265 -20 23-12-6 17-19-5 2-4 7-3 1W
6 Detroit 82 39 35 8 86 0.524 30 36 238 259 -21 22-16-3 17-19-5 3-0 6-4 1L
7 Buffalo 82 36 39 7 79 0.482 29 32 269 289 -20 23-15-3 13-24-4 4-2 6-4 1W
8 Boston 82 33 39 10 76 0.463 26 33 222 272 -50 20-14-7 13-25-3 0-1 3-7 1L
East Central GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Winnipeg 82 56 22 4 116 0.707 43 54 277 191 86 30-7-4 26-15-0 2-1 7-3 1W
2 Dallas 82 50 26 6 106 0.646 41 48 277 224 53 28-10-3 22-16-3 2-2 3-7 7L
3 Colorado 82 49 29 4 102 0.622 40 45 277 234 43 26-12-3 23-17-1 4-3 5-5 1W
4 Minnesota 82 45 30 7 97 0.591 33 42 228 239 -11 22-17-2 23-13-5 3-3 5-5 2W
5 St Louis 82 44 30 8 96 0.585 32 40 254 233 21 24-14-3 20-16-5 4-2 7-3 1W
6 Utah 82 38 31 13 89 0.543 30 37 241 251 -10 18-15-8 20-16-5 1-4 6-4 1L
7 Nashville 82 30 44 8 68 0.415 24 28 214 274 -60 20-18-3 10-26-5 2-0 3-7 1W
8 Chicago 82 25 46 11 61 0.372 20 23 226 296 -70 15-20-6 10-26-5 2-4 4-6 2W
West Pacific GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Vegas 82 50 22 10 110 0.671 46 49 275 219 56 29-9-3 21-13-7 1-5 6-4 1W
2 LA Kings 81 48 24 9 105 0.648 43 47 249 201 48 31-5-4 17-19-5 1-3 8-2 4W
3 Edmonton 82 48 29 5 101 0.616 36 48 259 236 23 25-13-3 23-16-2 0-1 7-3 1W
4 Calgary 81 40 27 14 94 0.58 30 35 220 237 -17 23-12-6 17-15-8 5-2 6-4 3W
5 Vancouver 82 38 30 14 90 0.549 28 35 236 253 -17 17-16-8 21-14-6 3-2 4-6 1L
6 Anaheim 82 35 37 10 80 0.488 24 31 221 263 -42 21-18-2 14-19-8 4-2 3-7 4L
7 Seattle 82 35 41 6 76 0.463 28 33 247 265 -18 18-18-5 17-23-1 2-3 5-5 1L
8 San Jose 82 20 50 12 52 0.317 14 18 210 315 -105 12-27-2 8-23-10 2-5 0-10 11L
Eastern GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Washington 82 51 22 9 111 0.677 43 49 288 232 56 26-9-6 25-13-3 2-3 4-6 1L
2 Toronto 82 52 26 4 108 0.659 41 51 268 231 37 27-13-1 25-13-3 1-2 9-1 5W
3 Tampa Bay 82 47 27 8 102 0.622 41 45 294 219 75 29-8-4 18-19-4 2-3 5-5 1L
4 Carolina 82 47 30 5 99 0.604 42 47 266 233 33 31-9-1 16-21-4 0-3 3-7 3L
5 Florida 82 47 31 4 98 0.598 37 41 252 223 29 27-12-2 20-19-2 6-0 3-7 2L
6 Ottawa 82 45 30 7 97 0.591 35 44 243 234 9 27-11-3 18-19-4 1-2 6-4 1W
7 New Jersey 82 42 33 7 91 0.555 36 40 242 222 20 19-17-5 23-16-2 2-2 5-5 1L
8 Montreal 82 40 31 11 91 0.555 30 38 245 265 -20 23-12-6 17-19-5 2-4 7-3 1W
9 Columbus 82 40 33 9 89 0.543 30 34 273 268 5 26-10-5 14-23-4 6-1 7-3 6W
10 Detroit 82 39 35 8 86 0.524 30 36 238 259 -21 22-16-3 17-19-5 3-0 6-4 1L
11 NY Rangers 82 39 36 7 85 0.518 35 38 256 255 1 19-19-3 20-17-4 1-0 5-5 2W
12 NY Islanders 82 35 35 12 82 0.5 28 33 224 260 -36 19-17-5 16-18-7 2-3 3-7 2L
13 Pittsburgh 82 34 36 12 80 0.488 24 33 243 293 -50 21-15-5 13-21-7 1-6 5-5 1W
14 Buffalo 82 36 39 7 79 0.482 29 32 269 289 -20 23-15-3 13-24-4 4-2 6-4 1W
15 Boston 82 33 39 10 76 0.463 26 33 222 272 -50 20-14-7 13-25-3 0-1 3-7 1L
16 Philadelphia 82 33 39 10 76 0.463 21 27 238 286 -48 20-20-1 13-19-9 6-3 5-5 3L
Western GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Winnipeg 82 56 22 4 116 0.707 43 54 277 191 86 30-7-4 26-15-0 2-1 7-3 1W
2 Vegas 82 50 22 10 110 0.671 46 49 275 219 56 29-9-3 21-13-7 1-5 6-4 1W
3 Dallas 82 50 26 6 106 0.646 41 48 277 224 53 28-10-3 22-16-3 2-2 3-7 7L
4 LA Kings 81 48 24 9 105 0.648 43 47 249 201 48 31-5-4 17-19-5 1-3 8-2 4W
5 Colorado 82 49 29 4 102 0.622 40 45 277 234 43 26-12-3 23-17-1 4-3 5-5 1W
6 Edmonton 82 48 29 5 101 0.616 36 48 259 236 23 25-13-3 23-16-2 0-1 7-3 1W
7 Minnesota 82 45 30 7 97 0.591 33 42 228 239 -11 22-17-2 23-13-5 3-3 5-5 2W
8 St Louis 82 44 30 8 96 0.585 32 40 254 233 21 24-14-3 20-16-5 4-2 7-3 1W
9 Calgary 81 40 27 14 94 0.58 30 35 220 237 -17 23-12-6 17-15-8 5-2 6-4 3W
10 Vancouver 82 38 30 14 90 0.549 28 35 236 253 -17 17-16-8 21-14-6 3-2 4-6 1L
11 Utah 82 38 31 13 89 0.543 30 37 241 251 -10 18-15-8 20-16-5 1-4 6-4 1L
12 Anaheim 82 35 37 10 80 0.488 24 31 221 263 -42 21-18-2 14-19-8 4-2 3-7 4L
13 Seattle 82 35 41 6 76 0.463 28 33 247 265 -18 18-18-5 17-23-1 2-3 5-5 1L
14 Nashville 82 30 44 8 68 0.415 24 28 214 274 -60 20-18-3 10-26-5 2-0 3-7 1W
15 Chicago 82 25 46 11 61 0.372 20 23 226 296 -70 15-20-6 10-26-5 2-4 4-6 2W
16 San Jose 82 20 50 12 52 0.317 14 18 210 315 -105 12-27-2 8-23-10 2-5 0-10 11L
GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Winnipeg 82 56 22 4 116 0.707 43 54 277 191 86 30-7-4 26-15-0 2-1 7-3 1W
2 Washington 82 51 22 9 111 0.677 43 49 288 232 56 26-9-6 25-13-3 2-3 4-6 1L
3 Vegas 82 50 22 10 110 0.671 46 49 275 219 56 29-9-3 21-13-7 1-5 6-4 1W
4 Toronto 82 52 26 4 108 0.659 41 51 268 231 37 27-13-1 25-13-3 1-2 9-1 5W
5 Dallas 82 50 26 6 106 0.646 41 48 277 224 53 28-10-3 22-16-3 2-2 3-7 7L
6 LA Kings 81 48 24 9 105 0.648 43 47 249 201 48 31-5-4 17-19-5 1-3 8-2 4W
7 Tampa Bay 82 47 27 8 102 0.622 41 45 294 219 75 29-8-4 18-19-4 2-3 5-5 1L
8 Colorado 82 49 29 4 102 0.622 40 45 277 234 43 26-12-3 23-17-1 4-3 5-5 1W
9 Edmonton 82 48 29 5 101 0.616 36 48 259 236 23 25-13-3 23-16-2 0-1 7-3 1W
10 Carolina 82 47 30 5 99 0.604 42 47 266 233 33 31-9-1 16-21-4 0-3 3-7 3L
11 Florida 82 47 31 4 98 0.598 37 41 252 223 29 27-12-2 20-19-2 6-0 3-7 2L
12 Ottawa 82 45 30 7 97 0.591 35 44 243 234 9 27-11-3 18-19-4 1-2 6-4 1W
13 Minnesota 82 45 30 7 97 0.591 33 42 228 239 -11 22-17-2 23-13-5 3-3 5-5 2W
14 St Louis 82 44 30 8 96 0.585 32 40 254 233 21 24-14-3 20-16-5 4-2 7-3 1W
15 Calgary 81 40 27 14 94 0.58 30 35 220 237 -17 23-12-6 17-15-8 5-2 6-4 3W
16 New Jersey 82 42 33 7 91 0.555 36 40 242 222 20 19-17-5 23-16-2 2-2 5-5 1L
17 Montreal 82 40 31 11 91 0.555 30 38 245 265 -20 23-12-6 17-19-5 2-4 7-3 1W
18 Vancouver 82 38 30 14 90 0.549 28 35 236 253 -17 17-16-8 21-14-6 3-2 4-6 1L
19 Utah 82 38 31 13 89 0.543 30 37 241 251 -10 18-15-8 20-16-5 1-4 6-4 1L
20 Columbus 82 40 33 9 89 0.543 30 34 273 268 5 26-10-5 14-23-4 6-1 7-3 6W
21 Detroit 82 39 35 8 86 0.524 30 36 238 259 -21 22-16-3 17-19-5 3-0 6-4 1L
22 NY Rangers 82 39 36 7 85 0.518 35 38 256 255 1 19-19-3 20-17-4 1-0 5-5 2W
23 NY Islanders 82 35 35 12 82 0.5 28 33 224 260 -36 19-17-5 16-18-7 2-3 3-7 2L
24 Pittsburgh 82 34 36 12 80 0.488 24 33 243 293 -50 21-15-5 13-21-7 1-6 5-5 1W
25 Anaheim 82 35 37 10 80 0.488 24 31 221 263 -42 21-18-2 14-19-8 4-2 3-7 4L
26 Buffalo 82 36 39 7 79 0.482 29 32 269 289 -20 23-15-3 13-24-4 4-2 6-4 1W
27 Seattle 82 35 41 6 76 0.463 28 33 247 265 -18 18-18-5 17-23-1 2-3 5-5 1L
28 Boston 82 33 39 10 76 0.463 26 33 222 272 -50 20-14-7 13-25-3 0-1 3-7 1L
29 Philadelphia 82 33 39 10 76 0.463 21 27 238 286 -48 20-20-1 13-19-9 6-3 5-5 3L
30 Nashville 82 30 44 8 68 0.415 24 28 214 274 -60 20-18-3 10-26-5 2-0 3-7 1W
31 Chicago 82 25 46 11 61 0.372 20 23 226 296 -70 15-20-6 10-26-5 2-4 4-6 2W
32 San Jose 82 20 50 12 52 0.317 14 18 210 315 -105 12-27-2 8-23-10 2-5 0-10 11L